Neal Stephen­son, a per­sonal favorite and author of Snow Crash, Dia­mond Age, Crypto­nom­i­con, and the (slightly dis­ap­point­ing) Baroque Cycle tril­ogy that was set in the sev­en­teenth cen­tury talks about tech­nol­ogy, geeks and pol­i­tics in this free­wheel­ing inter­view with Rea­son Online.

One thing I did like about the Baroque cycle was the incred­i­ble amount of inter­est­ing infor­ma­tion it con­tained on sci­en­tists I knew lit­tle about. Stephen­son is the unques­tioned king of covert edi­fi­ca­tion — a joke here, some pun there, a lit­tle bit of explain­ing and lo! You’ve actu­ally learnt some­thing, with­out real­iz­ing it. And nowhere is this tal­ent more obvi­ous than in the Baroque Cycle. Wilkins, Hooke, Leib­niz and New­ton were all char­ac­ters in the books, and they were treated with typ­i­cal Stephen­son irrev­er­ence — mak­ing them seem almost human. Wish he wrote my sci­ence textbooks.

This excerpt is a loose sum­mary of the broad themes under­ly­ing the Baroque Cycle.

The ini­tial sur­prise was that Leib­niz had done so much computer-related work so early. I got that from George Dyson’s Dar­win Among the Machines. When I began to read about the period, I was sur­prised by the sophis­ti­ca­tion of the Ams­ter­dam stock mar­ket and the com­plex­ity of the Lyon­naise finan­cial sys­tem. But the great­est sin­gle sur­prise for me was the wel­ter of ideas con­tained in [Robert] Hooke’s Micro­graphia. Hooke talks about an incred­i­bly wide range of top­ics in that volume.

One is how we ought to define thinking—what is intel­li­gence? He cites the way that flies are drawn to the smell of meat, which seems like intel­li­gent behav­ior. But then he cites the coun­terex­am­ple of a trap that kills an ani­mal. To a prim­i­tive per­son who didn’t know that the trap had been invented by a per­son, it might seem that the trap itself pos­sessed intel­li­gence and will. Of course, this isn’t really the case; it’s just a dumb mech­a­nism reflect­ing the intel­li­gence of him who cre­ated it. But, Hooke says, who are we to say that a fly isn’t just a more com­pli­cated mech­a­nism that is designed to fly toward the smell of meat? In which case it isn’t being intel­li­gent at all, only reflect­ing the intel­li­gence of the Creator.

The final sur­prise I’ll men­tion is that Leibniz’s sys­tem of doing physics, which is based on fun­da­men­tal units called mon­ads, has got a few things in com­mon with the mod­ern notion of com­pu­ta­tional physics, or “it from bit.” Fur­ther­more, Leibniz’s rejec­tion of the con­cept of absolute space and time, which for a long time seemed a lit­tle bit loony to peo­ple, enjoyed a revival begin­ning with Ernst Mach.

One could argue that peo­ple like Leib­niz and the oth­ers were able to come up with some good ideas because they weren’t afraid to think meta­phys­i­cally. In those days, meta­physics was still a respected dis­ci­pline and con­sid­ered as worth­while as math­e­mat­ics. It got the stuff­ing kicked out of it through much of the 20th cen­tury and became a byword for mys­ti­cal, obscu­ran­tist think­ing, but in recent decades it has been reha­bil­i­tated somewhat.

At bot­tom, any­one who asks ques­tions like “Why does the uni­verse seem to obey laws?” or “Why does math­e­mat­ics work so well in mod­el­ing the phys­i­cal uni­verse?” is engag­ing in meta­physics. Peo­ple like New­ton and Leib­niz were as well-equipped for this kind of think­ing as any­one today, and so it is inter­est­ing to read and think about their meta­physics. Seventeenth-century chem­istry may have been rudi­men­tary, and of only his­tor­i­cal inter­est today, but 17th-century phi­los­o­phy is highly devel­oped and still inter­est­ing to read.

Link through Amit Varma’s Mid­dle Stage.

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