Comments on: Creationism by any other name… http://www.stochastica.net/2005/08/22/creationism-by-any-other-name/ Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Wed, 27 Apr 2011 18:28:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Karthik R http://www.stochastica.net/2005/08/22/creationism-by-any-other-name/comment-page-1/#comment-2238 Karthik R Wed, 23 Nov 2005 01:15:48 +0000 http://www.stochastica.net/?p=208#comment-2238 Kansas has been at the receiving end on ID related issues. Now looks like the Univ of Kansas has had enough. Check this out. http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1110AP_Intelligent_Design_Course.html I especially loved the name of the course. "Special Topics in Religion: Intelligent Design, Creationism and other Religious Mythologies". Ouch!! Kansas has been at the receiving end on ID related issues. Now looks like the Univ of Kansas has had enough. Check this out.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1110AP_Intelligent_Design_Course.html

I especially loved the name of the course. “Special Topics in Religion: Intelligent Design, Creationism and other Religious Mythologies”. Ouch!!

]]> By: Swami http://www.stochastica.net/2005/08/22/creationism-by-any-other-name/comment-page-1/#comment-1683 Swami Wed, 31 Aug 2005 14:58:50 +0000 http://www.stochastica.net/?p=208#comment-1683 The main reasons why this is happening in the US is due to the resurgence of Evangelism coupled with the realisation that evolution effectively rules out God's hand. The fact that life just happened and that there might be no divine reason for the emergence life is disturbing to many people - probably because it vitiates all their superstitious claims. The main reasons why this is happening in the US is due to the resurgence of Evangelism coupled with the realisation that evolution effectively rules out God’s hand. The fact that life just happened and that there might be no divine reason for the emergence life is disturbing to many people — probably because it vitiates all their superstitious claims.

]]> By: Karthik http://www.stochastica.net/2005/08/22/creationism-by-any-other-name/comment-page-1/#comment-1678 Karthik Wed, 31 Aug 2005 03:27:20 +0000 http://www.stochastica.net/?p=208#comment-1678 DoZ, that was a good article - it is true (& good) that we reconcile to most scientific advances somehow - you hardly see any protests against technology based on religious grounds in India. DoZ, that was a good article — it is true (& good) that we reconcile to most scientific advances somehow — you hardly see any protests against technology based on religious grounds in India.

]]> By: Bala (Karthik) http://www.stochastica.net/2005/08/22/creationism-by-any-other-name/comment-page-1/#comment-1675 Bala (Karthik) Mon, 29 Aug 2005 08:18:49 +0000 http://www.stochastica.net/?p=208#comment-1675 "A tamil teacher tried to convince us that the use of the word “anu” here was a reflection of how advanced Tamils were - Auvaiyar knew atoms!" Reminds me of Arundhati Roy's retort to such idiotic claims about alleged references to everything from nuclear wars to space-crafts in hindu texts..."If you looked hard enough, you'll find even Coke mentioned in the Hindu texts..." :) “A tamil teacher tried to convince us that the use of the word “anu” here was a reflection of how advanced Tamils were — Auvaiyar knew atoms!“
Reminds me of Arundhati Roy’s retort to such idiotic claims about alleged references to everything from nuclear wars to space-crafts in hindu texts…“If you looked hard enough, you’ll find even Coke mentioned in the Hindu texts…” :)

]]> By: DoZ http://www.stochastica.net/2005/08/22/creationism-by-any-other-name/comment-page-1/#comment-1673 DoZ Sat, 27 Aug 2005 21:57:06 +0000 http://www.stochastica.net/?p=208#comment-1673 Yeah - I've heard the Dasavathar spiel myself. And I'm not convinced either. And the "evidence" that folks present to assert the antiquity of Tamil is always interesting :) For a change, I <em>want </em>to believe them, which of course, makes me suspicious right away. (Clearly I have trust issues that I need to work on.) Did you read this article (http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/21/weekinreview/21mishra.html) - has a few more examples of how Hindus apparently reconcile themselves with advances in science. Yeah — I’ve heard the Dasavathar spiel myself. And I’m not convinced either. And the “evidence” that folks present to assert the antiquity of Tamil is always interesting :) For a change, I want to believe them, which of course, makes me suspicious right away. (Clearly I have trust issues that I need to work on.)

Did you read this article (http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/21/weekinreview/21mishra.html) — has a few more examples of how Hindus apparently reconcile themselves with advances in science.

]]> By: Karthik http://www.stochastica.net/2005/08/22/creationism-by-any-other-name/comment-page-1/#comment-1672 Karthik Sat, 27 Aug 2005 01:14:44 +0000 http://www.stochastica.net/?p=208#comment-1672 I think that's true of most people - irrespective of religion. (at least the ones I've come across). It is only a small minority (I'd like to think) that wants to wage this battle - it is quite sad that an established scientific truth is on the defensive now because of this. I've also heard from quite a few friends (my wife included) that the Dasavathars actually represent evolution, but I am not too convinced of that either. Reminds me of something: There was an Auvaiyar poem that went, "Anuvai Thulaithu Yezh Kadalai Puguthi Kurugath Tharitha Kural" Something that praises the Thirukkural for its brevity. A tamil teacher tried to convince us that the use of the word "anu" here was a reflection of how advanced Tamils were - Auvaiyar knew atoms! I've noticed that many such "we were so advanced early" claims are founded on frivolous coincidences. I think that’s true of most people — irrespective of religion. (at least the ones I’ve come across). It is only a small minority (I’d like to think) that wants to wage this battle — it is quite sad that an established scientific truth is on the defensive now because of this.

I’ve also heard from quite a few friends (my wife included) that the Dasavathars actually represent evolution, but I am not too convinced of that either. Reminds me of something:

There was an Auvaiyar poem that went,

“Anuvai Thulaithu Yezh Kadalai Puguthi
Kurugath Tharitha Kural”

Something that praises the Thirukkural for its brevity. A tamil teacher tried to convince us that the use of the word “anu” here was a reflection of how advanced Tamils were — Auvaiyar knew atoms! I’ve noticed that many such “we were so advanced early” claims are founded on frivolous coincidences.

]]> By: DoZ http://www.stochastica.net/2005/08/22/creationism-by-any-other-name/comment-page-1/#comment-1671 DoZ Fri, 26 Aug 2005 23:57:56 +0000 http://www.stochastica.net/?p=208#comment-1671 I've been following the series with interest myself. I find the idea of Intelligent design ridiculous, but have for long been curious why it matters so much to some people to know that God personally created them. I came across the best argument why I should even bother to listen to the ID folks from a totally unexpected source - AS Byatt's Angels & Insects. Am half-way through the book at the moment, but would reccommend you give it a shot. Not sure if Hinduism says anything certain about the creation of man & woman, but the one thing I did find from a completely unscientific survey conducted among friends - we don't give a damn... I've tried thinking abt what in Hinduism makes us so comfortable with leaving the question of creation ambiguous, but don't have an answer...What do you think? I’ve been following the series with interest myself.

I find the idea of Intelligent design ridiculous, but have for long been curious why it matters so much to some people to know that God personally created them. I came across the best argument why I should even bother to listen to the ID folks from a totally unexpected source — AS Byatt’s Angels & Insects. Am half-way through the book at the moment, but would reccommend you give it a shot.

Not sure if Hinduism says anything certain about the creation of man & woman, but the one thing I did find from a completely unscientific survey conducted among friends — we don’t give a damn… I’ve tried thinking abt what in Hinduism makes us so comfortable with leaving the question of creation ambiguous, but don’t have an answer…What do you think?

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